Showing posts with label non-punitive. Show all posts
Showing posts with label non-punitive. Show all posts

Saturday, August 9, 2014

3 Ways To Repsond Rather Than "Buy ALL the Pies"

You may have had this misfortune of hearing this story of a man who bought all the pies at Burger King to punish a child and his mother who was having an emotional breakdown in the line.  Here's the story for background.



    So a while ago I had decided to treat myself and go to Burger King. I hadn't had the greatest of days and I had a headache coming on. It was a very long line and I was at the end of it waiting patiently. When behind me comes this woman yapping on her cellphone with a little monster of a child. This kid was out of control, screaming, punching his mother throwing around a gameboy whenever something didn't go right in the game. The mother didn't seem to pay any attention to him and his continued yelling of 'I want a Fucking PIE'. After about 5 minutes of the line with these people behind me, I had gone from a headache to a full on migraine, but nothing was going to stop me from getting those burgers. I calmly turn and ask her nicely if she can please calm or quiet her child down. Immediately she gets up in my face telling me I can't tell her nothing about raising her child and to mind my own business. I nod and turn around, shes still yelling at the back of my head when the child cries out again how he wants a pie, the mother consoles him, calling him sweety and ensuring they'll get pies for lunch because she loves him so much. Things immediately go back to the they were and I wait another 5 minutes before getting to the front of the line. It turns out it was so slow because they had 1 trainee on cash during the lunch hour rush. All I can think of is how the people behind me ruined my splurge and gave me this headache. I then decide to ruin their day. I order every pie they have left in addition to my burgers. Turned out to be 23 pies in total, I take my order and walk towards the exit. Moments later I hear the woman yelling, what do you mean you don't have any pies left, who bought them all? I turn around and see the cashier pointing me out with the woman shooting me a death glare. I stand there and pull out a pie and slowly start eating eat as I stare back at her. She starts running towards me but can't get to me because of other lineups in the food court. I turn and slowly walk away.

    When I posted this to my Facebook page with a comment about how this guy was what was wrong with the world some of the comments I got were along the lines of "this guy rocks! Bad parents deserve this shit!"

    Let's set aside for a moment the sexism inherent. Ask yourselves if the man's response would have been the same if it would have been a son and his father. Would he have felt sympathy? Would he maybe have thought it was *still* the mother's fault? Just think on that.

    What I want to talk about is the "bad parenting" myth. The idea that children "misbehave" because of poor parenting and that the "problem" (aka the child) would be better off if the parent laid down the law and disciplined the bad behavior.

    What is misbehavior? It is kind of an arbitrary term meaning "stuff I don't like". It changes from person to person and from culture to culture. It also is a term only used for children.  Do we say our friends are misbehaving? Do we say our spouses are "disobedient"? You can read more about the meaning of misbehavior here.

    Let's turn to the basis of "gentle parenting" and why people think it is permissive. There isn't much in the story about how the mother was interacting with her son but the implication that it was "bad parenting" usually implies she was wrong for not putting her foot down and shutting him up post haste. So, the question is - is a child "misbehaving" BECAUSE his mother isn't cracking the whip?

    A child who is having an emotional out burst isn't "misbehaving" or in need of "discipline" ( in the common misuse of the word to mean punishment) anymore than a mentally disabled adult or a Alzheimer's patient is "misbehaving". A child's brain is not developed enough to control lower-brain emotional triggers like it will be when the brain matures (see my explanation of human brain development in this issue of Natural Mother Magazine). 

    Parenting gently advocates that CHILDREN ARE HUMAN BEINGS and deserving of the same respect as other human beings. When a child is consumed by emotions they can't control (anger, hunger, exhaustion, etc. and even happiness when some kids bite because they can't handle the excitement) they need guidance (the real meaning of "discipline") on how to appropriately express their feelings and control them. Guidance is not punishment, shame, physical abuse or other negative forms of "good parenting".

    Guidance means showing empathy and respect for a fellow human that is struggling. Sometimes it means saying no and setting limits. Sometimes it means no pie. But first and foremost it requires connection between two humans and not a power display from an authority figure.

    If you saw a woman with her own mother in her 80s screaming that she refused to eat anything but a pie and was being angry and loud about it would you think "what a bad daughter she is. Why can't she control that bratty woman?"  No, you'd feel sympathy for the mother that couldn't control herself (because being out of control feels scary) and for the woman who was trying so hard to provide a meal for her mentally impaired mother.

    Why is one different than the other? Because we have respect for the Alzheimer's patient and zero respect for children. Children are supposed to fit our mold and "act right" despite their immature brains. When children display developmentally appropriate behavior they are misbehaving. When gma displays developmentally appropriate (developmentally declined) behavior it is simply a symptom of her brain development and we can easily continue to treat her as a human.

    Of course someone is going to say "but I never acted like that so "good" parenting works". Yes, you can use physical and mental manipulation to have obedient children who do as their told out of either fear of punishment or want of a reward. They aren't patient or caring or sorry people but they act out being those things to avoid pain or gain favor. A child parented with respect will actually learn to BE patient, BE compassionate, and BE sorry because they've had those things modeled for them. Since most people are parented with the goal of obedience they grow up with a stunted sense of compassion for others.

    Case in point: the guy who bought the pies could have thought one of these three things;
    1. "Wow, that mother has her hands full. How could I help her?" Maybe just eye contact and a sympathetic smile to let her know she's not alone. 
    2. "That poor kid really wants a pie he must really be having a hard time dealing with the waiting. I hate waiting too but I have years of experience." 
    3. That mom looks really frazzled and embarrassed that her kid is being loud. I should engage the kid to ease her job of raising the next generation of the species. Maybe I'll ask him what kind of pie he wants." A big grown up asking a direct question to a child? Children love this because they know when they are being treated like people - you know, regular people.

    Instead he though; "that kid is annoying and it is that woman's fault. What an annoyance to me that I have to be subjected to a human that isn't on my level mentally or with someone daring to have a bad day. I'll show them! I'll buy all the fucking pies and then they'll learn their lesson that they better act the way that conveniences me or they'll get it again."

    Yeah, that last guy is making the world a wonderful place. Can you hear the vindictiveness? The self-centeredness? Is this the type of person we want to be? Or, that we want our kids to grow up and be?

    If he were a person thinking the first three things or something along those lines then he will reap the benefit of making someone else happy. Maybe he'll make that kid's day by talking to him. Maybe he'll make that mom's day by reminding her that parenting is hard and people appreciate the work she does. Maybe that mom will be calmed enough by a kind word to handle her son's next breakdown with more aplomb and compassion. Maybe she'll pay it forward to another mom one day. Maybe it will spread like wildfire and compassion will be the first thing that pops into people's minds instead of petty backstabbing. Maybe that kid will grow up to control the launch codes and maybe he'll stop and think with compassion instead of judgment and anger when "other people" annoy him (do you see the roots of racism, sexism, and homophobia in "otherness" beliefs?). If more people join him maybe the world could have some peace.

    Or we can use our plentiful monetary resources and mental energy to buy a bunch of pies just to shit on a child and his mother trying to eat lunch.
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    Tuesday, June 26, 2012

    Moving Beyond Punishment (or, does "gentle" mean "permissive"?)

    [box type="box" width="600" template="drop-shadow curved curved-hz-1" align="left" color="yellow"]I'd like to introduce my good friend and our newest author at Parenting Gently, Jennifer.  Jennifer blogs at Practical OH Mommy and is mama to two wonderful daughters.  She is also a professional coach and OAMCer (check out her blog if you don't know what that is!). [/box]Welcome to Carnival Day #3!  Did you check out day 1 and day 2's wonderful posts?  Now that you have a great basis for the principles of gentle parenting let's look at one of the trickier parts of implementation.  Punishment.  Consequences.  Regardless of how mainstream parents talk about it this is the "big scary" thing that many parents worry will make their parenting permissive.  Today's authors talk about this important issue.



    If you are new to the world of Gentle Discipline, it's important to know what the real meaning of the word "Discipline" really is. Merriam-Webster gives several definitions for the word discipline. Training that corrects and molds the mental faculties and moral character is the definition that is most in line with the basic concepts of gentle discipline.  Today's posts focus on tools and techniques gentle parents can use to shape and mold our children gently, while still setting limits and boundaries.

    In "We Don't Do Discipline", muminsearch describes the 6 foundational elements of the relationship with her children that take the place of punishment.

    I remember having a conversation with my husband. He was wondering, "Shouldn't we be doing what other people are doing - discipline our children, set consequences and use time-outs?"


    My answer to that was, "We don't need to"

    Read more about why punishment and discipline aren't the focus for them.

    Paige is also talking about punishment today in Punishment in Perspective where she compares how we treat our children to how we treat our spouses.

    In "Gentle Discipline Basics: Teaching Skills", The Hippie Housewife provides a great set of tools that can be modified to all ages and stages of child development.  She reminds us that:

    This idea of teaching skills applies throughout childhood. For example:





    • babies can be taught to touch gently rather than hitting,


    • toddlers can be taught how to express and work through their big emotions rather than being sent for a time-out, and


    • children can be taught the skills of conflict resolution and making amends rather than having an arbitrary privilege removed as punishment after an altercation.



    In "The Fine Art of Natual Consequences and Logical Consequences", Hybird Rasta Mama breaks down the two main types of consequences that can be used in a gentle household and when each might be appropriate to call on.




    Gentle parenting relies on two type of consequences: natural consequences and logical consequences. Natural and logical consequences help children learn responsibility. They also learn how to solve their own problems. With this method, parents can raise children without anger or threats. Children learn what happens when they misbehave and what they should do differently next time.



    And finally, tune into PracticalOHmommy to learn how to "Save Time-Outs for the Soccer Field".  She describes the use of various techniques including redirection, validation, and time-ins to teach children problem solving skills that they can carry with them into their grown-up years.


    What are some tools in your gentle discipline toolkit that have been effective for you?


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    Punishment in Perspective

    Parenting gently does not come naturally to me.  Yes, I started the site and the carnival but that is passion not ease.  Although I don't consider my parents abusive they did parent punitively and I was spanked.  I struggle often with yelling, controlling, and even wanting to spank.  That is why the invigoration of the carnival is so welcome to me.  I want to share with you one of the techniques I most often use when I need a "gentle" nudge back onto the gentle path.

    Imagine your child is your spouse


    I've been married to a wonderful man for 13 years.  We fight, we argue, but we love each other very much.  We've even been through dark times due to infertility that almost tore us apart.  We do not blithely float through our marriage.  We actively evaluate and adjust course to keep us on the track to a happy and fulfilling marriage.  I think to say that we try to treat each other gently is an understatement.  We love each other, recognize each other as unique, wonderful, flawed people who we chose to build a strong relationship with.
    Imagine defining your relationships with your child that way.  My child is a unique, wonderful, flawed person who I love and choose to build a strong relationship with.

    What would this look like and what wouldn't it look like.  Let's look at common parenting practices in this light.

    Spanking


    Punishment - My husband disobeys me, smarts off, or makes me mad.  I hit him.

    Reality - this is called assault or spousal abuse.  It is not ok.  And it doesn't work.  I"m sure it would NOT strengthen our relationship but make him want to go very far away from me.  This is a breach of trust - disrespecting his whole person and body.

    Non-punitive -  If my husband hurt my feelings (smarted off) or did something I asked him not to do (disobeyed) I would tell him how I felt and what I thought should happen.  I would say "that hurt my feelings/upset me and I don't feel comfortable with you when you do ____."

    Time Out


    Punishment - My husband write on my wall with a sharpie.  I ignore him and won't talk to him to show him I'm angry.

    Reality - this is called the silent treatment and is really immature and passive aggressive.  It is selfish - it says I'm not happy and I want you to figure it out and fix it and I don't care to hear your side.  My love is contingent on your actions and you aren't getting any (sometimes in that way) until you shape up!

    Non-punitive -  Being passive aggressive does not help me get what I need and it erodes the relationship.  What I want is not to have to clean sharpie off the wall and I *do* (or should) care what his reasoning was.  I can respect his point of view (writing on the wall was fun!) AND disagree with his implementation (behavior) and ask for an alternate plan that meets both our needs.

    Consequences


    Punishment - My husband leaves his socks on the floor so I won't let him watch football.

    Reality - I hope this sounds silly to you.  The problem with "consequences" in traditional parenting is that they are arbitrary and don't teach anything.  And even though it does sound weird I do want to teach my husband.  If I've decided that socks is a big issue for me (optional, don't forget) then I need to talk to him about my needs.  Honestly he probably doesn't care about socks as much as me and wasn't trying to spite me when he did it.  He just forgot.  If I can focus on his wonderful qualities and not make a deal out of socks, better yet.  I was on my way to the hamper anyway.

    Non-punitive -  What do you want a husband that obeys your every command for fear of you taking away his privileges?  Or do you want the socks in the hamper?  If it really frustrates me: "honey, can you go in the room and pick up your socks, please?"  If it moderately frustrates me: "honey, I picked up your socks.  Can you use the hamper next time?"  Or, just do it and don't say anything.  It is just a sock.

    Yelling


    Punishment - My husband spills his juice on the floor.  I launch into a tirade about what a slob he is and how he always does this and now he better clean it up.

    Reality - Jumping from juice on the floor to a character assassination is a far leap.  How does that make him feel?  Like a failure and like I don't even like him let alone love him right now.  I guarantee when you freak out about a spill it is your emotions spilling over about something else.  You don't feel appreciated for all the cleaning you do?  You wanted him to wait till dinner to have some juice?  Something else.

    Non-punitive -  "oh man, I hate it when that happens.  Here's a towel.  Need some help?"  I empathized, offered help and implied that I trust him to clean up his own messes.  In other words he is a strong and capable man.  If you have an underlying emotion then see "time out" above.

    The next time you think about punishing your kids stop and think a minute about if you would do the same to your significant other.  Of course there are some differences due to age - like preparing you child for transitions, offering choices, etc. - but when they do something you find "wrong" treat them as a unique, wonderful, flawed person who you love and choose to build a strong relationship with and see what unfolds.








    Please join us all week, June 25-June30, 2012, as we explore the world of gentle, effective parenting.  We have new posts each day by talented authors providing us with insight into why gentle parenting is worth your time and how to implement it on a daily basis.  


    We are also giving away several parenting book and other goodies from our sponsors this week.  Please stop by and enter to win!

    This year's beautiful motherhood artwork is by Patchwork Family Art. Visit the store to see all her work.







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